EQNext: News Late This Year?

Written by Feldon on . Posted in EverQuest Next


From Dave “SmokeJumper” Georgeson on the EQ2 Forums:

EQ Next is still being built within a black box. The *earliest* we are currently considering that we *might* reveal info is late this year. We’re being very particular about what needs to be in the game before revealing it to folks, so until that stuff is ready, we won’t be showing anything. (Screens you saw from a couple years ago are completely obsolete now and are not pertinent to the current game at all.)

There is no reason for EQ or EQII to ever fade away. EQN is not being designed to replace those games. The only way it could “kill” EQ or EQII is by being such a phenomenally better game that everyone flocks to it. Many miles to go before we sleep.

* Artist’s mockup. Not the official logo for EQNext.

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Comments (37)

  • Islektur

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    Hooray! Finally, the news on my own to the expected project! I’ve waited so long at least some news!

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  • Landiin

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    “EQN is not being designed to replace those (EQ or EQII) games.”

    Wonder what kind of game is it then? We know it’ll have a cash shop but aren’t sequels supposed to replace their predecessor?

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    • Feldon

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      “EQN is not being designed to replace those (EQ or EQII) games.”

      Wonder what kind of game is it then? We know it’ll have a cash shop but aren’t sequels supposed to replace their predecessor?

      Yes, because EverQuest was sunsetted 6 months after EverQuest II came out. Oh wait, EQ1 is still going after 13 years (8 years after the introduction of EQ2) and is still getting expansions.

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  • Kralus

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    They said the same thing about EQ2, I wouldn’t read too much into that.

    I hope that SJ is referring to Fan Faire as a potential date to reveal some info.

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  • Blockhead

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    Read this on Massively and thought I’d drop by my old ranting grounds.

    This made me lol really hard:

    “EQN is not being designed to replace those games.”

    Why even say that? It only quantified what many speculated. Had they said nothing it would have remained speculative.

    Making a point to bring it up, we now know exactly what that means. Seriously one could try and fool themselves in believing that to be an honest true statement from SOE, but we all know what it really means.

    They have a renowned solid concrete history of lying about what they aren’t going to do, then do it, or what they are going to do and don’t do it.

    They are actually easy to read if you can read between the lies, eerrrr i mean the lines.

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  • Kralus

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    It doesn’t say that at all.

    All 3 games can be active at once, that’s all he was saying. Which is what SoE has said about their games since before EQ2 even launched.

    Stop over thinking it.

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  • Ennna

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    I’m hoping for the greatest sandbox ever made!

    But I’m a tiny bit afraid that they are making a casual farmville-like game instead.

    ANyway, we’ll just have to be patient.

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  • Dethdlr

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    Maybe I’m naive, but I’ve got to believe that if it were going to be a casual farmville-like game, Rothgar would have no interest moving over and being the lead programmer. But that’s just me.

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  • Kralus

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    I can’t believe people think that EQ would be turned into a farmville clone, it’s amusing. People hate on SoE so much that they are willing to believe a post by a dude on a message board who is not involved with EQ3 at all.

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  • Blockhead

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    Hey Feldon, Dethdlr how you doing?

    Yeah i think EQ stayed afloat because in many respects EQ2 sucked compared to EQ when it launched and in many ways it still sucks to this day when compared against EQ.

    EQ2 wasn’t the run away success they hoped it was going to be, wow took that from them, and no one flocked to it from EQ except folks like me whom played EQ2 loyally for 6 years, throw in the whole wow factor to come, it was a flop to them.

    They worked hard to compete against wow and during that time the game rocked until about 2008 i thought anyway, it just took me two years to realize I’m being lied to about everything and all my mates in game whom already quit at the 4 and 5 year mark were right, EQ2 is no more.

    We have to remember that they “promised” no free to play, no cash shop, no pay to win… seriously, want the whole list or just the top ten lies?

    Hopefully only the top ten as the whole list would require the killing of several forests. To think, this is only some of the recent lies. This behavior has been going on since 2009 with this game. I’m not sure how anyone could take anything they say seriously, then again i did for a couple years so… i’m not one to talk.

    Ennna: Deep down, i’m wishing for that as well. SOE is really going to have to pull one out of their BEEP and impress the pants off me to come back. Even though EQ2 is free to play i don’t even have it installed anymore because it’s not EQ2, the EQ2 i loved and cherished was already dropped from the SOE line up years ago.

    I feel they are only keeping EQ and EQ2 for a couple reasons, one, to keep people around for the launch of EQN and two, just in case we have another EQ2 wasn’t as good as EQ scenario. I can guarantee that if EQN is a hit, good bye EQ and EQ2. Which makes sense because if EQN is that good, most people from EQ and EQ2 will flock to it. So if one really wants EQ or EQ2 to survive you’d best be hoping for a flop.

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    • Feldon

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      I’m puzzled by anyone who is against free-to-play and cash shops yet is looking forward to EQNext. In what parallel universe do people think that with EQ2, EQ1, DCUO, Vanguard, and Planetside 2 all being Free-to-Play with a StationCash Marketplace, that SOE would launch another game that is neither?

      I have serious doubts that EQNext will be sufficiently funded or have strong enough leadership to be successful long term. And until there is a shakeup from top to bottom of the Community Management department, and some maintenance of the wretched forum software, we’re not going to be able to learn about or discuss the game in any meaningful way.

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  • Blockhead

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    The only thing I’m against is being constantly lied too, i was only using those as examples. I could care less what they do, if i don’t like whatever I’ll leave. My reasons for leaving have nothing to do with f2p as I left well before f2p, the game i played from 2004 to 2008 was awesome there’s really nothing else one can say, that game was impressive, come 2009 and forward not so much.

    The only thing that bugs me is the constant saying one thing and doing the exact opposite, sure, if it happened here and there once and awhile, well OK, but it’s every single thing they say, they do the opposite.

    Unsure and not using this to prove a point but did we ever get the full velious? I seriously don’t know as i don’t waste much time on this company anymore and only thought the comment “EQN is not being designed to replace those games.” at massively was amusing this AM and thought I’d drop by and say hey. Funny how he does go on after to say that if EQN rocks well…

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  • Landiin

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    Yes, because EverQuest was sunsetted 6 months after EverQuest II came out. Oh wait, EQ1 is still going after 13 years (8 years after the introduction of EQ2) and is still getting expansions.

    Where did I say they wasn’t?

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  • Kwill

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    EQNext has to be developed to enter some kind of market space where SOE wants to be. I don’t know what that is, exactly — but you can be assured they want to be competitive in some niche in the MMO market, whether it be casual games, console, facebook based. If it’s not replacing EQ or EQ2, it has to be in a different niche than those two games. I guarantee you it will be an easy mode, free to play/buy stuff game — how in depth and fun remains to be seen, of course. They had a failed game in the Agency, but perhaps they want to salvage some of the core ideas there?

    Feldon, I think SOE’s paradigm of letting customers say whatever they wanted on their forums has gone by the wayside. Someone senior decided long ago it was better just to censor everything and keep it all pleasant and happy, rather than have these open conversations of years past. So a meaningful conversation about a game, at least on an SOE board, is probably never going to happen again.

    I hope EQNext is fun, and they do something innovative, but it won’t be a better version of EverQuest as we know it.

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  • Trueflight

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    [quote]All 3 games can be active at once, that’s all he was saying. Which is what SoE has said about their games since before EQ2 even launched.
    [\quote]

    Yeah, just ask anyone who played Matrix Online… Or Star Wars Galaxies…

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  • Kralus

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    Of course games aren’t going to stay open if they’re unprofitable. Including SoE’s flagship games….

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  • Steve

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    Vanguard is still running (it is isn’t it?). So they WILL keep games running long after they probably should have been shelved.

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  • Dark

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    @ Steve

    Well to be fair they said they were re-releasing Vanguard awhile ago, I think that idea got scrapped when DCUO flopped though.

    Whether you want to admit it or not, EQ3 is SoEs last leg, if it flops, what do they have to fall back on? EQ1 and EQ2 are about dead, there isn’t much chance left to revive them.

    SoEs biggest problem is the fact that they’re incapable of having positive PR, or even communicating with their customers correctly on a basic level. Also if you think EQ3 is going to launch complete and bug free like Rift, it won’t.

    Especially with TES:O coming out before EQ3, they have some serious competition, Zenimax isn’t going to let that game fail, they have the money and had the time to do it right.

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  • Wanda_Clamshucker

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    Honestly, I don’t have high hopes at all for EQ3. Dave, aka The Prince of Lies, has has his meaty, sticky fingers in its creation and guidance for quite some time. I do not trust that bugger, given what his track record has been over the last 2 years. Its all about spin, trying to charm us with his pale, highly polished face and greased back hair. He creeps me out. Even from the get go he has the appearance of a shyster, but then toss in all the lies and deception, and the consequent negative culture that is fostered in retaliation towards him..

    I just don’t think he has it, that positive, amazing, world-building, community enhancing spark that the previous EQ creators had. He’s all about cheap, Walmart glitzy crap that falls apart after a couple of washes or catches on fire if you keep it plugged in too long. He’s not substantive, honest, or a leader. He’s there because Smed wanted a quick cash turn around, using the cheapest methods, with intern-level staff to maintain operations. While Aeria games and Zynga could benefit from his skills, he’s so far turned a once-proud, quality game into a cheap, licentious street walker.

    How is EQ3 going to turn out under his caring, competent guidance? I am very curious to see that myself.

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  • Nyna

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    I hope they’ll make EQ-N non-quest based – I mean you only get basic directives instead of quests which direct you towards events that change on a daily basis (kinda like they promised for GW2).

    Grouping should not be required, but automatic for people with the same cause in the same area, so no more mob-stealing and camping.
    (kinda like Public Raids, rewards based on performance)

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  • Nyna

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    also Realm vs Realm would be nice, like DAOC or such.

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  • Sole

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    @ Nyna

    If Grouping shoulld not be required, why make then a mmo? An Online Single Player game like swtor you mean? See SWTor is already flopping. I dont think EQN will be an Single Player MMO too. Atleast i hope…

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  • Nyna

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    @sole
    you got me wrong.
    I mean grouping is AUTOMATIC when you’re in the same area with others…
    so no need to invite anyone. kinda like public raids, and the rewards are handed out according to performance after the kill. i think a system like that might be cool. – no kill stealing anymore, no camping, etc.

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    • Feldon

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      @sole
      you got me wrong.
      I mean grouping is AUTOMATIC when you’re in the same area with others…
      so no need to invite anyone. kinda like public raids, and the rewards are handed out according to performance after the kill. i think a system like that might be cool. – no kill stealing anymore, no camping, etc.

      Public Quests is an example of a great feature, which could have revitalized the entire game, that was killed by SOE listening to the wrong players.

      Public Quests hit DoV Beta and worked pretty well all things considered. Windslasher took all the feedback and put a lot of time into getting them working smoothly. They were pretty kickass when they hit the Live servers. With how broken all the DoV content (especially Access Quests) was at launch, thank God there were Public Quests for people to do. Unfortunately, it didn’t take long for nosy people to start complaining about AFK play and ‘exploits’.

      So HOURS of development time were wasted adding all kinds of anti-exploit and anti-AFK code. Patch after patch was issued trying to make Public Quests only reward you if you took an active part in the raid. In the process, Storm Gorge became insufferable. Then we never got the Pit of the Awakened PQ which was briefly in DoV beta, and we never got PQs in any of the other zones that had been planned. We did finally get a sort of Public Quest as part of the Druid Ring and Wizard Spire rebuilding events, but those were unbalanced and ended up being a fiasco.

      In the end, Windslasher ended up moving on to another part of the company. Talk about wasted talent. :(

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  • Arbos

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    Some Facts about EQN:

    1. There is no Launchpad anymore. A Webcam is required for access to play EQN.Your face will be saved and you have to say “Love you SJ” at every login. Beware of the lie detector which is automaticly connected to your cam.

    2. The Game is completely free to play, you have access to all items and dungeons and classes. If you want to have a break or log out for sleep you have to buy a “I´ll be back” Totem at the Store. Price depends on time how long you want to go off. If you go offline without buying this item your Character will be deleted after 30 Minutes with all the money and items you own.

    3. The game detects any 3rd party voice software and will be automaticly shut down if it do so. the only way for conversation is the integrated Voice chat, no need to say that the chat is watched by gm´s. Any negative words about developers and producers will have a ban as a result.

    have a good day folks :)

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  • Sairys

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    Too much secrecy on their part leaves us the consumer unsure as to where we plan on dropping our money. Forgive people like me who have anticipated the release of this game years ago. I’m left sitting at the console mmorpg table, no waitress, not even a menu, again.
    Please open up to us and let us feel like we are a part of your inspiration.

    Things like, people afk xping should be booted for inactivity & exploits should be treated with rewards if found. Gold spammers ruin the rpg feel as much as people with names that violate the terms and conditions. I could vent for hours about this…..

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  • Khayos

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    I know most of you cant believe in what SJ or Smed Say, but because of my love for everquest I want to believe. So I will believe, and based on his response to my twitter message, I am really Psyched.

    https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/215329290248658944

    and in response to another persons twitter message right after me.

    https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/215329550115155968

    So I want to and will trust Smed, regardless of everything people say, he is trying to do right by us and I hope he succeeds.

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  • Kruzzen

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    EverQuest Next: All the things they have been testing on current players…

    Level Agnostic
    Content Cash Shop Based
    Generic Armor that is created by Scripts
    Mercs that can be bought on SC
    TONS of appearance gear(Got to look good for dieing)
    Alternate reality timeline
    Design you own content

    What else have I missed that they have been testing in EQ2 to see if it works?

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  • Seggen

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    I remember reading a comment from Smokejumper a while back talking about the type of game he thinks developers should be going for to make a successful next gen MMO. He specifically pointed to CCP and EVE Online. I also have read comments from SJ about his excitement of adding “sandbox elements” to EQ2.

    We should expect a much more sandbox oriented game than the theme park we are accustomed to in EQ2. IMO, this is why they call it a “reimagining” of Norrath rather than fitting it into the lore of the current games. This will allow players to actually affect the world instead of progressing a writers story.

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  • Wanda Clamshucker

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    @Khayos: There is an orange on the table beside me. Tiny legs could burst out of its bottom, clawed, grasping, tiny little hands could erupt from its sides and it could run, hop, then vault across my keyboard to land on my chest and try to strangle me. It could happen, right? If I believe it, it must be true.

    My 4 year old niece believes in the tooth fairy as well, bless her heart.

    In some Chinese mythology, the world rests on the back of a giant turtle. Some people believe that too.

    So, hey, if you want to believe that Smed has your best interests at heart, then go ahead. We’re all entitled to our personal wishes and dreams.

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  • Feldon

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    Wanda,

    That is epic. ;)

    Smedley is a CEO. It shouldn’t be a shocker that he speaks various dialects of Buzzword and Marketese.

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  • Moocow

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    Wait, did someone just say Rift launched bug free and complete? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    Please, don’t make me laugh more. I remember people couldn’t progress for HOURS because an EARLY quest was bugged out and the guy would spawn in the sky, and no one could get to him and turn in the quest that’d send you to the next town over. There were a multitude of bugs in instances/raids that made them uneatable, like the end boss of the first raid.

    EQ3 won’t come out bug free either, but no game ever is so stop trying to smear EQ more. Personally, Rift…TERA…both flopped and neither came close to what I was expecting from an MMO like EQ1 was, EQ3 probably has the best chance of being that. I’m not naive, there’ll be issues, bugs, and things I may not like, but people with EQ experience are the only ones who can make it more similar to EQ1, or at least put the building blocks in there for something similar.

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  • KenVarwynn

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    I seriously hope that EQN is viable and it takes us back to what got most of hooked on MMO’s. The comradery and enjoyability of the game. None, in my opinion has ever captured the challenge and fun of EQ. I hope they get back to that style of game and I hope it is soon.

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  • oldschool

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    EQN need to go back to oldschool EQ style for people who love to play and live in the world they choose to. Not everything within 3 months BULLCRAP what every game is nowdays. 100 other games for monkeys like that. EQN is only hope for western hardcore gamers. The last hope…

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  • DBrick

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    If they bring back archetypes I will be happier than a pig in crap. Making choices from “commoner” to end class made the first 20 levels worth playing in EQ2.

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  • Baditude

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    I loved the community / spells casting on others in EQ, the classes / mechanics in Vanguard and the ability to change specs / PQs / live events from Rift

    I also enjoyed the realm vs realm from Warhammer but think a 3rd realm and greater rewards for controlling POIs would have made it better.

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